Portland Area Real Estate Appraisal Discussion

Appraiser Reviews Surface Pro 4 and Motion R12
In July of 2015, I wrote about
my new Motion R12 (R12) tablet and how I had agonized between that purchase or waiting for the yet to be released Surface Pro 4 (Pro 4).  In my view, these two are the best options for appraisers looking for one computer to be used in both the field and office with no need to sync between applications or to purchase, learn, or maintain multiple devices.  For those who like to use an Apple or Android in the field, do what works for you.  I am just happy to see any appraiser who is mobile

Fast forwarding to the present, the Pro 4 has been on the market for about six months and I purchased one for a new employee to use.  After a couple weeks of testing, I now have a better idea of the pros and cons between the R12 and the Pro 4.  Here is some background on the models that I tested.  The R12 purchased has a Core i7 1.7/2.9 gigahertz processor, 256 GB hard drive, and 8 GB of RAM.  The Pro 4 purchased has a Core i5 2.4/3.0 gigahertz processor, 256 GB hard drive, and 8 GB of RAM.  After field testing, I note the following key differences.

  1. Price – The R12 costs more than twice as much as the Pro 4. Accessories for the Motion are also more than twice the cost when compared to Pro 4 accessories. The Surface wins in this category. Click on the links above to see exact pricing.
  2. Speed – The R12 uses 5th Generation Intel chips and the Pro 4 uses a 6th Generation Intel chips. That makes the i5 on the Pro 4 faster than the R12 with an i7. With a stopwatch, I was able to roughly estimate that the newer i5 processor in the Pro 4 is almost twice as fast opening appraisal software than the older generation i7 on the R12.
  3. Ruggedness – The R12 received a drop test rating and a water, dust, and splash-resistant rating. The Pro 4 feels lighter, more fragile, and the screen glass feels flexible and fragile compared to the Motion. The Motion clearly wins in the rugged category, but that is partly because it comes with a factory installed case. A Pro 4 can be replaced once if dropped and still not cost as much as the R12. In rainy weather, I find it easier to hold an umbrella (Disto goes in umbrella hand, computer on shoulder strap) than deal with a wet screen, so water resistance is no longer much of an issue for me.
  4. Case – The R12 wins in this category because it is rugged, does not need a case, and it has storage for the pen built-in. Truly rugged cases for the Pro 4 are difficult to find because of the computer’s many vents and ports. Additionally, many cases cover up the carefully engineered kickstand, type cover, and magnetic pen holder. I tested two cases for the Pro 4 and finally settled on the Incipio Capture Case.
    1. The Incipio Capture Case has two layers of protection, a high lip on front to protect screen, and a built-in shoulder strap. The downside of this case is that the pen tether and holder are not very useful, there is less ventilation for hot weather, the factory type cover cannot be used, and the factory kickstand is covered up. One irritation of this case is that the shoulder strap seems to be mounted on the wrong side of the tablet for my preference of tipping outward and upward to view the screen. This problem is fixed by locking the screen in flipped rotation when using the should strap.
    2. The Kensington Black Belt Case has the ability to retain the function of the factory kickstand and type cover, has large ventilation holes, a high lip on front to protect screen, and a good pen holder. The downside of this case is no shoulder strap and less protection. I tried installing a shoulder strap on this case, but after mounting it I felt that the tugging of the strap could lead to the tablet popping out of the case (that would not be good).
  5. Battery Life – The R12 has a 43WHr battery and the Pro 4 has a 42WHr battery. With almost the same capacity both tablets can run for about two to three hours with the i7, and four or five hours with the i5 processor. Battery life can be significantly extended by disabling turbo boost and reducing screen brightness. The main difference is that the R12 can be hot swapped to a new battery while the Pro 4 has a built in (cell phone like) battery that cannot be swapped. The R12 wins in this category. However, if an appraiser always charges when traveling, the battery life should not be an issue unless the tablet battery is more than a couple of years old. Both tablets seem to charge at a similarly fast pace and easily top off while driving by comparable sales.
  6. Pen – The R12 has a very simple and rugged pen that does not require Bluetooth or a battery like the Pro 4. Also, the Motion’s pen is small and stores away easily. However, the Pro 4 pen has a more natural feel with rubber tip that seems more responsive. The Pro 4 wins in this category, but be sure to carry an extra pen battery in the field.
  7. Screen – Both screens are similar in size, but vary slightly in aspect ratio. The Pro 4 has a much higher resolution of 2736 x 1824 than the R12’s 1920 x 1080. The R12 has a less glossy screen that is intended for use outdoor with less glare, but I have no trouble viewing the Pro 4 outdoors. The Pro 4 wins in this category.
  8. Weight – The R12 weighs 3.0 pounds and the Pro 4 weighs 1.73 pounds. With the most rugged case tested, the Pro 4 weighs 2.23 pounds. The Pro 4 wins in this category.
  9. Docking – The R12 has easy desktop docking and vehicle docking (click the links to see videos of how they work for me) that does not require the attachment of any wires for power, monitors, or ports. The Surface Dock needs only the attachment of one wire for power, monitors, and ports, but a kickstand or automobile holder are still necessary, making moving the Pro 4 from the car to the office not as easy. The R12 wins in this category.

After testing both computers, I am sad to say that the Pro 4 clearly beats my R12 for use by real estate appraisers.  If I was purchasing today, I would buy a Pro 4 but I would miss the R12 docking options, ruggedness, pen storage, and swappable battery.  With the Pro 4, I would gain a faster, lighter, and more responsive computer with a price low enough to replace twice as often.

The following is a silly drug commercial parody video that we released this week to promote our home measurement services, but it also shows clips of me using my R12 in the field.


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Gary F. Kristensen, SRA, IFA, AGA



January 28th, 2016 11:37 PM

Portland Appraiser Mobile Office Power Inverter
This topic is not just for Portland appraisers, but for anyone who operates computers and multiple electrical devices in a car.  For years, I’ve been a devotee of
going mobile by setting up an office in the car with a computer docking station, extra tablet battery charging, GPS navigation, cell phone charging, Bluetooth charging, and so on.  However, I have learned through experience that powering so many devices tends to be too much for the typical twelve-volt cigarette lighter or power outlet plug found in most cars.

In the past, my solution to power everything was to plug a three-way splitter into the car’s twelve-volt power outlet and then connect automotive twelve-volt plugs to power all the devices.  My computer ran using a twelve-volt DC adapter but there are two problems with these multiple outlet twelve-volt cigarette lighter type plugs.  The first is that the plugs tend to be low quality and, as a result of small wires and cheap materials, I’ve melted two of them.  The other problem is that the twelve-volt sockets tend to become loose with time and then disconnect when jiggled or when not positioned just right.

To solve these problems, I first tried a Cyber Power Inverter that plugs into the cigarette lighter and has an outlet for AC power and a twelve-volt outlet.  This is a well-made device rated for 140 watts.  (Higher wattage inverters usually cannot be plugged into car power outlets.)  On paper, this inverter has plenty of power to run my computer and other devices, but eventually under heavy load and after continuous running of its noisy fan, it would get hot and shut off.  Although some people have no problems with small inverters running laptops, I’ve read about similar problems with many other small inverters and I’ve concluded that this is not a Cyber Power Inverter problem, but a problem with too many things plugged in, too much current being drawn, and too much time spent in the car.  Also, the Cyber Power Inverter still has the problem that it is plugged into a car outlet socket and can easily become loose over time.  I felt that there had to be a better solution.

My final resolution was to purchase a 750 Watt Continuous/1500 Watt Peak CEN-TECH Power Inverter from Harbor Freight.  This inverter must be hardwired directly to the car battery with a dedicated and fused power wire.  A local stereo installer ran the power wire for about $50 and I easily hooked up the other connections and grounded it to a seat bolt. 

Once installed, the hardwired inverter has two outlets, a USB charger, and far more than enough power to run as many devices as needed including any future electronics that I might add.  I’m thinking that a 400 watt chest freezer could be added if I ever want to convert my appraisal mobile office into an ice cream car on the weekend.  After several weeks of use, the new inverter has been trouble free.  The very quiet cooling fan hardly ever needs to run.  With this inverter, the car lighter outlet remains free for my GPS plug.

Have you had any similar problems with twelve-volt car outlets?  Did I leave anything out or do you want to join in the conversation?  Let me know in the comments below.

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Thanks for reading,

Gary F. Kristensen, SRA, IFA, AGA

Portland Appraiser Guest Blogger a la mode

This week my Portland real estate appraiser blog is posted on another website.  I was invited (not paid) to write a guest blog post for the a la mode, inc. Appraisal Team Blog called “How I Work.”  I use a la mode Total software in my appraisal business.  The article describes my work flow as it relates to my hardware, software, and marketing.  (Hopefully I did not give away too many secretes).  Please check it out.

Here is a link to How I Work: Gary Kristensen, A Quality Appraisal, LLC

Did I leave anything out or do you want to join in the conversation?  Let me know in the comments below.

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Gary F. Kristensen


Leica Disto D810 Touch Review Portland Appraiser

About one month ago, I purchased a new Leica DISTO D810 Touch.  I am a big fan of going mobile and of laser measurement for real estate appraisers.  When it comes to laser measurement, the bright lasers, handy features, and rugged design of the DISTO brand put it above its competitors.  It is hard to imagine appraising without a DISTO.  Consequently, I never work in the field without a backup DISTO waiting in the car.  Prior to this purchase, the older D5 and a D2 models were our tools of choice.  If you have not found your favorite DISTO yet, maybe these thoughts and experiences will be surprising and helpful.

The D810 Touch offers some exciting features (some exclusive and some available on other models).  Here are my thoughts on some of the aspects that are most relevant to real estate appraisers:

  • A digital viewfinder (also available on other DISTO models) is a handy video camera function to help you find the laser point in bright sunlight or at a distance.  Once you get used to using this feature, it is hard to live without.

 

  • Measure with a picture (exclusive to the D810 Touch) allows the appraiser to take a picture of a second floor outcrop and measure it on the screen.  On some homes, this feature can be quite valuable.  It avoids the need to use the more difficult polynomial functions (that are available on the lower cost DISTOs), or having to take measurements from the interior of the structure.

 

  • Smart horizontal mode (also available on other DISTOs models) allows a measurement to shoot on an angle and then obtain the level distance.  This feature is handy when the only target for the laser beam is a high overhang.

 

  • Lithium-ion battery (exclusive to the D810 Touch) allows your 810 Touch to be charged in the car and eliminating the need to carry backup batteries.  This is a great feature, but it only works if you are someone who will remember to charge it.  The cost of purchasing AA batteries for the other DISTOs can be significant over the life of the device (they go through batteries quick), but it might be easier to remember a pack of batteries in your car.

 

  • Bluetooth compatibility (also available on other DISTOs models) is a promising feature for sending measurements directly to your device.  Some techy appraisers might find this feature useful or fun, but most will not need or want it.

 

  • Plus and minus keys are standard on all DISTO models (that I know of) and are essential because they allow the appraiser to measure segments of a wall, taking advantage of more convenient targets that might not be available at the end of the wall.  I use the plus or minus keys on about half of all exterior measurements.

After using the D810 for the past month, I’ve decided that it should stay in the car as a backup (or in my back pocket for use on difficult properties) while I use my older D5.  Here are my reasons:

  • The D810 is significantly slower when it comes to plus and minus measurements.  For example, I might shoot to a fence past the edge of the house, walk to the end of the wall that I’m measuring, and press the minus key to subtract the distance from the house to the fence.  With the D5 this requires only four keystrokes.

DISTMINUS, DIST, EQUAL

On the D810, this requires six keystrokes.

DIST, +/-, +/- DIST, DIST, EQUAL

The +/- key must be hit twice because a single key is used to toggle between plus and minus each time.  The DIST key must be hit twice because the laser does not automatically come on when the +/- key is pressed, as it does with the D5 and other DISTO models.  I’ve found that all of these extra keystrokes waste a significant amount of time in the field.

  • The D810 touch screen is clumsy and I find myself accidentally hitting the screen and turning on the picture mode.  This happens most often when I’m reaching the DISTO around corners or holding it over my head.

 

  • The D810 is just larger and does not slip in and out of my pocket as well.

Based on these experiences, if I was buying another DISTO today, I would select the E7500i.  This model only lacks the measure in a picture feature and the lithium-ion battery of the D810, but it is smaller, it is $250 less expensive than the D810 (which is 30% less than retail), it has both plus and minus keys, it has a digital viewfinder, and it features smart horizontal measuring.  If you do not care about the digital viewfinder (some appraisers might not care), you can save a lot of money by purchasing the model D2.  The D2 has separate plus and minus keys and costs $670 less than the D810 (which is 79% less than retail).

If you want a great deal on a DISTO, try www.distagage.com .  Leica requires that this company list the same price on their website as everyone else.  However, if you contact them and ask for a discount, their prices are unbeatable.  My 810 Touch was 20% off retail.

Did I leave anything out or do you want to join in the conversation?  Let me know in the comments below.

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Thanks for reading,

Gary F. Kristensen

Many who know me or have read my blog in the past know that I am a fan of using desktop replacement tablet computers.  Such tablets are powerful enough to replace a desktop computer but also portable enough to be used in the field.  I just purchased a new Motion R12 tablet after using a bulky Motion J3500 for five years while trying to decide if I should wait for the release of the Microsoft Surface Pro 4.  Here are videos describing the Motion R12 Windows tablet.

The reasons why I decided to spend almost exactly twice the money for a Motion R12, rather than buy a Surface Pro, are listed below.

  1. The Surface Pro 4 is not yet available, but my old workhorse J3500 tablet needed replacement now.

  2. The Surface Pro 3 docking station does not work with any rugged field case.  This means that if you use a field case, you cannot use the convenient docking station without first removing the case (there goes the convenience).  The Motion R12 has a built-in case.

  3. The Surface Pro does not have a docking station designed for a vehicle.  It is awkward to hook up wires for charging or holding your computer when working on it in the car between jobs.  Aftermarket mounting systems for the Surface Pro are not as sleek as the Motion docks.  With one click, a Motion docking station turns any car into a mobile office.  Real work can be done anywhere you decide to pull off the road, grab your wireless keyboard, and take care of business with a full Windows desktop experience.

  4. The Motion R12 can get wet and it often rains In Portland, Oregon.  I am much more comfortable standing in the rain with a computer that I know is designed for this type of use.

  5. The Motion R12 features a monitor designed to be more easily viewed in bright sunlight; something we do not get as often in Portland, Oregon, but can still be troublesome.

  6. The Motion R12 has a tether and slot (“barn”) to store the digitizer pen when not in use.  This is a small issue, but very handy.  The Surface Pro has only a magnet to hold the pen and few good options when cases are installed.

  7. The Motion R12 features a larger battery that can be swapped in the field or replaced when the battery starts to lose its resiliency.  Computer batteries typically become weak after about two years and I plan to keep my computer longer than the life of the original battery.  Also, even with long battery life, it gives piece of mind to have a backup battery in case your charger gets inadvertently unplugged or other surprises occur.

Did I leave anything out or do you want to join in the conversation?  Let me know in the comments below.

If you find this information interesting or useful, please subscribe to this blog and like A Quality Appraisal, LLC on Facebook.  Also, please support us by making Portland real estate appraisal related comments on our blogs and YouTube videos.  If you need Portland, Oregon area residential real estate appraisal services for any reason, please request appraisal fee quote or book us to speak at your next event.  We will do everything possible to assist you.

Thanks for reading,

Gary F. Kristensen


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